No Spawn Camping - FAQ

[mizmellyjelly™]

Spawn camping has never been allowed on TrU servers dating back to our first dust server(2002) on CS 1.6. This rule has since been carried over and applied to our CS:S platform. This topic is being written in detail to explain what many of our CS:S players clearly don't understand, therefore applies mainly to our CS:S Dustfest server. However CS 1.6 players on our dust servers are also subjected to the same terms.


1) Q: What is spawn camping?
A: Spawn camping is when you camp at your base site.


2) Q: What is considered spawn camping?
A: The following images below are the spawn camping boundaries. The shaded area is the restricted area.

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3) Q: Which servers does this rule apply to?
A: We currently have 3 servers that this rule is being utilized on: CS1.6: Dust1 & Dust2. CS:S: DustFest.


4) Q: Why is spawn camping not allowed for Terrorists?
A: You have no reason to be here, your objective is to plant the bomb.


5) Q: Why is spawn camping not allowed for Counter-Terrorists?
A: CT's will always have more leverage with regards to this rule given several exceptions. With that being said, that does not mean CT's can stay in spawn, waiting for terrorists to "appear or pass by". Please keep in mind that it is only a pub server and because of the size of the server, it becomes an unfair advantage to have CT's camping A, B, Mid AND CT spawn all at once. By eliminating CT's from spawn camping keeps a balance in the gameplay . We want to make the server as fair as possible for both teams which is why this rule is in place.


6) Q: When is there an exception to be in spawn?
A: For Terrorists: There are no exceptions. Please refer to #4.
For Counter-Terrorist: If CT's are passing through spawn and gets flashed through Mid DD, then continue moving towards Mid or B. DO NOT FALL BACK INTO SPAWN. However, if T's have taken over either A or B, then CT's can pass through spawn to either eliminate the T's or defuse the bomb. If there are a bunch of T's visible vs you, then it's ok to fall back into spawn to defend yourself keeping in mind the objective which is to defuse the bomb if planted. Other than that, there is no reason for CT's to stay in spawn.


7) Q: How many seconds do I have before I am considered a spawn camper?
A: When the round starts, you have approx. 8 seconds and 8 seconds only. Equip yourself with what you need and move out.


8) Q: I was AFK and came back just when CT's rushed into T spawn. Can I still shoot at them or would that be considered spawn camping?
A: Do not shoot. Just let them kill you or try to run away even if you see someone running towards you. Until you are outside the spawn camping boundaries, you will be considered spawn camping. AFK stands for "A FREE KILL" or "AWAY FROM KEYBOARD" which you technically would not be if you just killed someone while in spawn.


9) Q: As a CT, what if I decide to revert my chosen path from A to B or vice-versa? Is it ok to pass through spawn?
A: At the beginning of the round we prefer CT's to choose a path and stick with it. Until T's have taken over either A or B, then players found abusing CT spawn by continuously "passing through" spawn from A to MID or vice-versa will be punished. Because of the size of these servers, having many players running back and forth or "in and out" will not be acceptable. Please refer to #6.


10) Q: As a T, what if I decide to revert my chosen path from B-Tunnels to Long A double-doors or vice-versa? Is it ok to pass through spawn?
A: No. If CT's have taken over B tunnels, do your best to eliminate the CT's from B-Ramp (refer to spawn outline images). If CT's are coming out of Long A double-doors, eliminate the CT's without falling back into spawn from outside Long A or head towards CATWALK, Middle DD or Lower B-Tunnels.


11) Q: What if I just finished buying and the opposing team is already rushing towards my spawn, can I shoot them from spawn?
A: No and buy faster!! It shouldn't take you more than X amount of seconds to equip yourself. We can understand if you happen to be new to the game, but you can only be new at it for so long. The opposing team should NEVER be able to reach the other team's spawn by the time you leave because it takes them X amount of time to get there which in that same amount of time, should give you enough leeway to buy and move out.


12) Q: I played with an admin and he/she said I can stay in spawn for at least 1 minute, does this mean I'm allowed to stay in spawn because he/she said so?
A: No. The admin has misinformed you and/or has been misinformed them self. In this case, politely inform the admin that TrU Management has set this rule and that he/she should contact Management for any discrepancies. However, if the admin keeps persisting that it is ok to stay in spawn, please contact us at http://forums.justtru.com/sendmessage.php with the name of the Admin, the server it was on and the time it took place.


13) Q: Let's say I never knew about this rule and I spawn camped and killed one of the opposing players and was slayed. When the next round started I was slayed again. Why is that?
A: There will be times when new players join the servers and will be unaware of the "No Spawn Camping" rule (even though the message is clearly displayed every so-and-so minutes during the game). However that does not mean you will be given the exception to spawn camp, therefore will be slayed/punished. If you managed to kill an opposing player from spawn, then for every player you killed will be the same amount of times you will be slayed for the next several rounds. Also, we will not tolerate rude responses (eg. WTF? Why was I slayed??). Your reaction plays an important part as a result to your punishment. This should be a lesson for the first and last time. If you are caught spawn camping again, you will be kicked until you understand and agree with the server rules. Punishment may vary depending on admin's discretion.


14) Q: How come you guys are enforcing this rule now all of a sudden?
A: It was close to non-existence before our older regular admins from 1.6 began to play CS:S more on a regular basis. This is when it was brought to Management's attention that nobody knew or cared to follow the rules. We wish not to let the rules be ignored and hope that everyone who does not agree with this will later realize the fairness and balance that it brings to the gameplay. We would just like everyone to have fun while following the rules of the server at the same time.



This FAQ guide was prepared by j1n™ and mizmellyjelly and is encouraged by the rest of TrU Management, admins, and TrU community.

[Red]

wait a minute(for D2).. if I am a terrorist and I rush B, and some moron happen to stay outside of DD at A, and gets killed. Shouldn't I be allowed to run through T spawn to recover the bomb? there will be loads of ct's in mid, and cat waiting for people coming out of the tunnel, so isn't it fair for a terrorist to go through spawn and recover the bomb?

anyhow, CT's spawn camp a WHOLE lot in D2. as for terrorists, it's usually jsut the noobs or people new to the server; but for CT.. regs are constantly spawn camping.

[Spaztick]

SON OF A BITCH I wanted first post.

[T3rroR | HdshT]

you can run through as long as you dont CAMP!!!!! that means run through and GTFO!!

[AzY]

what if.... you're running through and see somone, stop and kill them

orrrrrrrrrr the bomb is down in spawn

[UntouchableZ^hS]

uh oh, i thot there was no spawn camping on office, oops

so i was in a fight with ts at double doors and got flashed as well as needed to reload. i ducked behind a box in spawn to reload and get my sight, there was no other cts in mid, and i got slayed. i find it hard to believe that is how this rule was meant to be enforced.

so i was in a fight with ts at double doors and got flashed as well as needed to reload. i ducked behind a box in spawn to reload and get my sight, there was no other cts in mid, and i got slayed. i find it hard to believe that is how this rule was meant to be enforced.

[UntouchableZ^hS]

sometimes when admins spec people all they are the players in spawn but dont know the reason for it and see it as spawn camping, like in ur situation u pushed back into spawn to recover and maybe an admin randomly speced and saw you in spawn and thought you were spawn camping, it happens sometimes

[crippler]

Originally Posted by Varmint Stalker

so i was in a fight with ts at double doors and got flashed as well as needed to reload. i ducked behind a box in spawn to reload and get my sight, there was no other cts in mid, and i got slayed. i find it hard to believe that is how this rule was meant to be enforced.

You need to get your own story straight. You shouldn't be utilizing spawn against opposing team period. But that's not my point. You were slayed because you camped between the boxes in ct spawn. Why bitch about admin slaying you when you shouldn't have been there in the first place?